whenever i see someone ask a question about computers that i feel is obvious, rather than saying READ THE MANUAL DO IT YOURSELF or HOW COULD YOU BE THIS UNINTELLIGENT i just explain how to do the thing, thus giving people a good experience with the community instead of making people associate linux users with smug, condescending, self-righteous asses

@lynnesbian LOVE THIS. I am PRETTY damn good with computers and I STILL feel this way sometimes, especially with Linux. With great power comes great responsibility. I vow never to become a smug tech bro.

@lynnesbian my favorite thing to do back when i actually did things in tech was to answer questions from people that liked replying RTFM with a massive wall of text explanation ending with "btw, i don't know anything about linux and i figured this out, some expert you are"

this is how i was banned, at an early age, from basically every hardcore linux forum and irc channel

@scarly @lynnesbian you're doing the gods' work.


@scarly @lynnesbian *furiously looks up how to set up an irc server*

@lynnesbian Holy shit this take is melting the silicon in my CPU

But tea tho if you say RTFM, Tux, Linux Torvalds' penguinsona, will personally ensure any linux machine you touch immediately kernel panics :crt_w_prompt: :tux:

@lynnesbian there is a specific type of person that i would like to jettison off of the planet -- commonalities seem to be misogynists who have a fondness for i3 and dwm

@greg my girlfriend uses i3, hopefully we can reclaim it form the depths

@lynnesbian that one just was the first twm to come to mind but the suckless people are legitimately #disturbing

@lynnesbian @greg I know I'm kinda necroing here, but what's up with the suckless people?

@lynnesbian oh I just figured they were putting on airs, like cat -v. If they're actually like that in meatspace I could see that being not fun though

@lynnesbian lmgtfy dot com forward slash socially positive mutual reinforcement

@lynnesbian My all-time favorite are people who reply to "I know this is an odd use case, but how do I..." questions with "You shouldn't do that / Why do you want to do that / ur dumb"

@lynnesbian This is nice when you're just beginning to work on something, but technical self-reliance (in the sense of also not having to rely on a working internet connection) is a skill worth having. So help them, sure, but also teach them to read the friendly manual from time to time, maybe even if they don't have anything to do.

@zge oh definitely. it's also really helpful to let them know where in the manual they can check, how to get help, etc

@lynnesbian I cannot tell you how many times I have googled how to do something and the first result is a stack overflow page where the only response is to google how to do it.

@LucasTheDrgn @lynnesbian such answers are against the site rules and if you come across one you should do the internet a favor and flag it “not an answer.” That doesn’t help to answer the question but it at least reduces the level of shittery online a little bit.

@lynnesbian tbh _also_ mentioning where it could be looked up is good. teaching fishing and all that.

@lynnesbian Being able to RTFM is a huge skill all on its own. It took me years to figure out where all the information is kept.

Also a lot of the manuals assume a certain level of existing competence to actually understand at all. For someone who's just started using the system the manual might not even be useful at all. They need someone to hold their have so they can get the experience they need to set off on their own.

@lynnesbian In so many cases, too, it actually takes _less_ time to just give the damn answer than it does to tell someone to read "the manual." The wild success of StackOverflow is a heap of evidence to support my claim.

@lynnesbian You're the hero the free software community need, not the one it deserves.

@lynnesbian it's so weird when I see this attitude from the same tech bros who at the same time proselytize the use of linux and foss in general. Like it sets *such* a bad impression.

Would you ("you" referring to the hypothetical tech bro) tell someone "read the fucking manual" to their face? If the answer is yes then how are you not an asshole?

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