@sophia let me tell you something. if you think i'm going to let you get away with spreading lies then you're wrong.

gmail isn't FOSS.

FOSS is stuff like microsoft edge and apple safari because they're free and let you open the source code of the website by clicking view source, makin them Free "Open (the) Source" Software - FOSS

@lynnesbian @sophia I firmly disagree. Here are the reasons why Gmail is #FOSS:
* No vendor lock in, you can send messages to people who do not use gmail
* No lock in in the UI either, you can use Thunderbird if you choose to and Gmail would still work
* Not only can you view the source code but you can also save it (Ctrl+S) and upload it to your cloud. Giving you the opportunity to have your own Gmail.
* It starts with a G, like GNU

All of this combined is more than enough to call Gmail #FOSS

@strider @lynnesbian @sophia ugh, ok, are you trolls or what?

There's a very strict definition of Free Software, as well as OpenSource, and so F[L]OSS as well.

And they include publishing the source code of the software.

What you see in the browser is the code of the pages that are generated by it, not its own code.

@strider @lynnesbian @sophia

saying gmail is FLOSS because you can view the html code is like claiming drawing around the shadow of a building is equal to its blueprint.

@disco @strider @sophia @lynnesbian yeah I'm 99% sure as well, but you never really know.
Or, maybe it's even a Turing-complete AI in disguise.

@mmu_man @lynnesbian @sophia @strider could be, but at first I was thinking "wow does someone really not understand this?" but then I read the whole thread and realized they're just meming.

FOSS means Free Open Source Software. If gmail would be foss, it would mean that (providing were talking about the entire gmail email suite) anyone could inspect the source (including server side), host their own instance and redistribute it according to the software license.
@lynnesbian @sophia

@strider @lynnesbian @sophia look at you, talking about open source software on the absolutely proprietary platform Mastodon, that tracks everything you post and censors free speech loving instances.

@strider @lynnesbian @sophia hey just FYI I read your clearly satirical post and am now worried that you seriously believe this thing you are clearly joking about

just wanted to post that here because you needed my input


As for safari and edge, their own source code isn't available and one isn't allowed to adjust it to their own needs and redistribute as wanted. This makes that they aren't foss.


@ohai @sophia @lynnesbian if i can't view their source code than why do they have a "view source" button? checkmate, GAHNOO + linux users

That's the code of the website (which can, or not, be open source, depends on the license), not the web browser itself :)
@lynnesbian @sophia

@ohai @lynnesbian @sophia "view source" opens the source aka it's open source so all web browsers are FOSS (freakin' open the source, stupid)

@ohai @lynnesbian @sophia yeah but I'm allowed to use either Safari OR Edge, for free? Like I didn't pay a dime.

Yes, I'm just saying that when a piece of software or a server is free (monetary), it doesn't mean it's open source by default.
@lynnesbian @sophia

@ohai @lynnesbian @sophia my man I can open any web site with either browser. It don't see how it gets freer than that?

It's not about what websites you can see (as for if the browser is FOSS or not), it's about whether or not you can view/modidy/redistribute the code of the browser itself.
If you are talking about free as in money, you're right (the convo started with free as in FOSS, that's why I'm explaining the FOSS part)
@lynnesbian @sophia

@ohai @lynnesbian @sophia I can copy the .exe file onto a floppy disk and give it out to anyone and I won't get arrested. I'm nearly sure of that.

well yeah, of course, that doesn't mean it's allowed by the vendor/creator of that software though. (that depends on the license + terms of agreement)
@lynnesbian @sophia

@sweetmercury @ohai @lynnesbian @sophia I can burn them onto a DVD as well. Thought that would get you arrested? Well I've been doing that for decades and never been arrested once so come at me, bros.

Well, I could (if I had the skillset) break into a computer every day but if I don't get caught, I won't be arrested, of course. That doesn't mean that breaking into a computer is allowed!
@sweetmercury @lynnesbian @sophia

@ohai @strider @lynnesbian @sophia but if the computer is open for you to break into then it's open source. It's right there in the name.

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