calling the entire fediverse "mastodon" is good because it normalises one particular platform above all others and makes users of other software feel like they're abnormal and not part of the main platform
whats a windows. I only use a internet box
comatose: calling the fediverse the fediverse
tired: calling the fediverse mastodon
wired: calling the fediverse pleroma
inspired: calling the fediverse kroeg
hired: calling the fediverse osada
*actually didn't understand the difference; for the reasons listed above*
@lynnesbian lynx chrome
@lynnesbian saying "GNU plus Chrome"
@lynnesbian "my corner of the fediverse"
@lynnesbian Just online search it
@lynnesbian Just search it online
@karen that's what i usually say
@lynnesbian Google doesn't like being a verb
because if you say "google it on bunbungo" you're doing two things:
1. damaging Google's ability to maintain control of their trademark
2. telling people to use a different search engine
@lynnesbian another example: "photoshop" (common noun) is something Adobe really does not like because they can be made by GIMP.
@lynnesbian so in conclusion, *do* use corporate trademarks as verbs because they hate it.
@ben or maybe tell people to bing things with google
@lynnesbian that's also good if you want to make companies mad at you, but then you're telling people to use Google and reminding them that Bing exists so that's two bad things
@ben searx it with duckduckgo
@lynnesbian yup i agree totally didnt do this an hour ago nope not me
@cerret i still do it sometimes, it's hard not to
@lynnesbian The term is Duck Tape™d to the very Linoleum™ of our society’s foundations. Time to grab a Kleenex™ to wipe our tears and move on.
@lynnesbian altavista it
@lynnesbian Google is actually pretty unhappy about it too, they don't want to get genericized.
Also as a linguist I am diametrically opposed with this entire conversation, linguistic prescriptivism is bad no matter how well-intentioned it is c:<
(unless the actual content of what they're saying is hurtful, then obv they're bad and should be informed as such. you know what I mean, I'm just trying to stop the pedantic response before it starts c:)
@jacethechicken i'm like 75% descriptivist but i want to avoid the commercialisation of language because it leads to people thinking of google as the one and only search engine
@lynnesbian Google is baked into our language at this point, you don't have to like it but soapboxing won't change it. It's most likely to just make people roll their eyes, like a retired English teacher telling everyone to stop ending sentences with a preposition.
not that I'm saying it's a good thing Google is baked into our language -- its probably not. But it's there, and language doesn't change backwards. Nobody ever succeeds in reversing linguistic evolution.
@jacethechicken it worked for america -- colour --> color
@lynnesbian that was forward evolution -- Colour was the original, Color was what it changed to over time.
"Just Google it" is a new development, a change from how we used to speak, and you're suggesting we roll it back.
@jacethechicken more importantly, referring to all search engines as google is just wrong
like... a search engine isn't google. google is google.
@lynnesbian the way people speak can't be "wrong."
(unless it's actively hurtful to someone, I'm not saying racist/sexist/homophobic language isn't wrong, etc. etc.)
@jacethechicken if i call a dog a cat it's wrong
@lynnesbian but if everyone calls a dog a cat, then maybe the word dog has evolved to encompass multiple animals
@jacethechicken i guess...
i just don't want google to become a standard word that people use because it's the name of one of the biggest companies in the world and i really don't want to have its global dominance drilled in to me daily
the way people speak affects the way they think and when people think of all search engines as "google" it makes them think differently about google, consciously or no
i realise that i'm not a linguist and this is just my uneducated take but im still upset about it
@lynnesbian I get *why* you're upset; I'm just saying that the way language changes is a complex net of social interactions over lifetimes -- and observing this change is literally the field of linguistics -- and trying to just *tell* people to undo a change is like standing in a river and trying to stop the water.
@jacethechicken i know it's pointless and there's nothing i can do about it but i just want to make it known that i don't like it
@lynnesbian well, if you know your soapboxing won't work, and you know people generally don't much enjoy being soapboxed at. . . ?
(sorry, you can keep doing you and it's , I'm just being a pest)
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