reminder: the four most powerful mobile CPUs in the world are made by and for apple's exclusive usage in their phones

if you want the world's most advanced mobile CPU you're stuck with The World's Most Advanced Mobile Operating System

reminder: other phones did the notch before the iphone and they were rightfully laughed at. then the iphone did it and it became widely popular


reminder: everybody knows that apple intentionally slows down their old phones to coincide with the release of the newer ones. they even admitted it:

nothing happened, they didn't stop doing it, but they *did* offer a $29 battery replacement for affected phones c:

reminder: apple was the first important company with the courage to drop the headphone jack. now that they've done it, everyone is doing it, and this >200 year old standard is dying thanks to them

reminder: if you try to screenshot a movie purchased with itunes on a macOS or iOS device, it won't work. this is presumably to prevent you from taking 24 screenshots per second and stitching them back together into the full movie, because why else would you prevent people from doing this

reminder: it's against the EULA to install macOS on "non-Apple branded hardware". this means that if you want to test your mac app on a mac, you have no choice but to buy a new laptop or computer

reminder: apple surpassed $1,000,000,000,000 in value about half a year ago. that's one trillion dollars.

@lynnesbian Reminder: Beats headphones are really Apple headphones with a different logo now

@lynnesbian wait, is it confirmed that newer versions of ios slow down older iphones on Purpose, or do newer versions of ios just do more and therefore need better hardware to work?

the former would not be surprising but that article doesn't make it clear

@00dani it's the former. apple admitted themselves that they intentionally slow down their devices to coincide with the new ones

@lynnesbian i said it wouldn't surprise me but. what the wtf the fuck

@00dani they justified it with some bs about older phones' batteries going crappy so to extend battery life they underclock the phones.

if that was a real concern they could have just popped up a notice saying "your battery is dying, you can improve battery life by replacing it, have a nice day" but this is apple we're talking about

i mean honestly if it was an opt-in toggle switch i would personally use it but just forcing it on users is literally BS

@Expat1975 the culture and posting style of the various *chan sites, e.g. 4chan/8chan

@lynnesbian @Expat1975

that reminds me a little of posting a message on 4chan that has a paragraph break in the middle, and being accused of being a Redditor.

oh, shi, this is in the style of a various chan... i'm in trouble now.


i'd love to be in a position to defend apple, but at best i've only ever made around $53k, so i can't afford to

@lynnesbian I watch Louis Rossmann, you won't find me defending them! XD

@lynnesbian I'm still able to use Discord on a Samsung Galaxy S2 and upgrade it to Nougat with LineageOS while my iPod touch 5g doesn't even let me install firefox due to the older iOS version

I am still unable to forgive Apple for rebranding the LCII line as Performa and me buying one of those crapboxen. I came to hate that hunk of junk.

@sum_random @lynnesbian Apple hobbled the LC and LC II with some questionable hardware design faults. On LC, you could fit something like 12MB RAM, but only 10MB was recognized.

Not until the LC475 did Apple right the wrongs in the LC line.

@lynnesbian Imagine having 17% of the world's total population in *actively used* products (in other words, there are even more, but these are just the ones that are in use regularly)

@lynnesbian it’s dropped down to around $780bn now because investors are getting the jitters.

Smartphones are now so expensive (and without new killer features) that Western consumers are holding onto them for longer or buying second hand. The Chinese economy is also slowing down, so demand in emerging markets isn’t what it used to be either.

@a_breakin_glass @lynnesbian I submit my "working" Hackintosh as proof of this

(yes, the same one that I can machine-check at will just by switching the monitor off, then switching it back on. That crashes macOS! Hooray!)

@lynnesbian Can't you just get an Apple sticker and "brand" a regular PC?

@lynnesbian what if I put a sticker from an Apple I bought at the grocery store on my computer

@lynnesbian not to say it's not awful but this is just hdcp which is a "feature" present on every streaming service and OS combination (including linux), not really an Apple Specific thing.

@animeirl this isn't HDCP though, this is something built in to macOS/itunes

HDMI isn't involved

@animeirl oh so it is

still though it's apple's fault for intentionally deciding to build it in to itunes

@lynnesbian agreed, but tbf, if they didn't then there would almost certainly just be no itunes.

@lynnesbian 24 fps is gross i can’t play melee in 24 fps

@girl yes but movies are in 24fps

unless you want to watch the hobbit in HFR

@lynnesbian hmm sounds like movies are 36 frames worse than super smash bros melee if you ask me.

@girl @lynnesbian then you'll need to take sixty screenshots per second and stitch them together to reconstruct gameplay footage instead

@lynnesbian OS X DVD does this too, and I always wondered why. This explains everything!

@drewzero1 @lynnesbian iirc iTunes was the first Apple app to have some kind of code-signing entitlement (?) that the kernel would recognize and use as a signal to block ptrace() and other debugging calls on the iTunes process, to make it slightly more annoying to get into iTMS DRM

now most Apple apps have this "diplomatic immunity to debugging" bullshit

@lynnesbian Apple is trifle-ing. They should let you take 7 seconds of screenshots because that's street legal. That's why I insist on calling them "Crapple." And Google, I call "Boogle."

@lynnesbian I'm in no way an Apple fan but this thread is triggering me so much tbh

@lynnesbian 1) Apple has huge control over it's production chain, which allows them to both customize hardware and software in a way that no other manufacturers can. Fact is, Android would probably run novbetter than iOS if the community managed to port it (a shame you can't tho, because of both their business and security models)
2) The notch on the Essential looked fine? And the iPhone has a pretty good excuse for it? I do prefer having no front camera at all tho.

@lynnesbian 3) This one is the most debatable of them all. Yes, iPhones slow down after about two years, and they admitted the slowdown. But that's like the average life cycle of a Li-Ion battery on a smartphone. Apple should be less paternalistic and more transparent about it, and they clearly have an interest in keeping you buying new phones and not admit design mistakes/limitations... but like... is it really *that* bad that they ask $29 for another 2 years of lifetime?

@lynnesbian 4) lol, why are we supposed to keep using a 200 years old port for just listening to music when we have alternatives that basically do the same (USB-C) or even better (Bluetooth + AAC/LDAC)? The demand was clearly switching towards slimmer phones (rip) and wireless headphones (I'm being 100% serious) so Apple was just the first because they're the ones who have the easiest time at making the customers transition smoothly.

@lynnesbian (keep in mind, audiophiles and professionals can still take advantage of the headphone jack, both on phones with adapters (you hates those tho... wireless is just for you then!) and in studios while we don't have USB-C for everything)

5) I'm actually surprised Chrome and Firefox don't do that with e.g. Netflix. Guess companies haven't lobbied hard enough. But not even FOSS automatically saves you from that (see Wayland), Apple just can do it more easily.

@lynnesbian Overall, there's like, *lots* of ways to complain about Apple. Hardware specs, reliability, price tagging, their security-over-feeedom approach, their obsession over controlling everything, their love for DRM (at least you did talk about that), their paternalist attitude – like, just watch Louis Rossmann to get plenty of reasons. But don't make such cheap, generic and thoughtless "criticism" because at the very least it just makes you focus on the wrong things.

@lynnesbian P.S.: sorry for the typos, I'm trying to pay attention to classroom! x3


1) that wasn't a complain about apple, it was a complain that apple was the company to come up with it, which means that it's permanently bound to apple and that no other product can ever use it
2) it's all a matter of taste. personally i hate the notch, but some people don't. some people buy neon yellow cars.
3) they slow down their phones all at once on the day the new ones release. not when your battery passes a certain threshold, not when you've had your phone for X many days, when the new one releases.
4) USB-C and bluetooth are digital methods. this means that you can use DRM on them. you can't put DRM on an AUX cable, it's physically impossible. any device with AUX output is a device that allows you to freely capture any audio you want. also, bluetooth is hardly better. pairing issues are still present, charging the batteries is annoying, and above all, why should i buy another set of earphones when the ones i have work just fine, and work with *nearly every product manufactured in the last century*?
5) if netflix did it too, it wouldn't excuse apple from doing it

- any formal research to verify 3)?
- USB-C in fact supports analog and I use it on my Xperia, that's what most dongles do, just passing analog signals
- Netflix does it, but can only enforce it on Safari because the other browsers haven't implemented it

- no, because this isn't easily researched (it only happens once per iphone release) but i'd say this chart is fairly condemning
- i would assume an app can detect that and then can easily say that you're not licensed to use the analogue output. if analogue usage is undetectable, then you're right, but i'm fairly sure it's not (android knows how to automatically mute your device when you disconnect the earphones, so the phone is definitely aware of the analogue connection being used)
- that's a strike *against* apple though, because their browser is the only one to comply with this bullshit

- it's really easily researched if you're convinced that's the cause, it's just that it takes time and effort to look it up
- there's no difference over a regular analog port... of course Android knows when you're plugging stuff, it only needs to know if there's current going on, but AT THE VERY LEAST (and I have to check the specs of USB-C again) if you're using a dongle there's no way to know where the signal is going
- yes, they don't have the best interests there, but just wait

@lynnesbian well actually (being the devil's advocate a little) I think it's related to copyright/Apple not wanting to have problems with the owner of the movie. That's only my guess tho.

@lynnesbian Don't worry, it won't be dying. It's still extensively used in music and will be for a while more. I'm sad to see them go on phones, though. They are great but I guess capitalism prevails once again :(

@lynnesbian I dunno how the insides work but my iPhone did just shut down once, then restarted itself, with a notification that the battery settings have been readjusted to compensate for the battery drain. It felt legit to me. It is a three year old phone and the battery isn’t what it used to be. I dunno. I trust Apple on this one...

@lynnesbian okay this one isn’t quite fair; they slowed the cpu down not to make people upgrade but to prevent situations where the cpu demands more energy than the worn out battery can supply

@lynnesbian @jalcine That isn’t what was happening. As LiIon batteries age, their ability to maintain a charge and deliver steady output diminishes.

It’s similar to how older cars have trouble starting up, maintaining speed, etc. If a process demanded a surge of power and the battery couldn’t deliver, the phone could just shut off. Now how would that look?

To combat this drawback, Apple added a speed governor, so to speak, for older devices. It tried to keep them running well in old age.

@lynnesbian @jalcine This drawback of LiIon has existed ever since they replaced NiCad, which had their own, arguably worse problems.

I sold early cell phones (dumbphones) at Circuit a city back in the day, and all their manuals had the same warning: the LiIon battery would start losing charge and performance after 18-24 months. It’s just how this tech is for now.

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