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i made a post about why i should never have made OCRbot, and where and how i went wrong with it.

bune.city/2019/05/the-failure-

@lynnesbian come on, don't feel such remorse for it, you didn't do any harm :blobheartcat:

@lynnesbian I didn't know about this. :c

I've been using it so posts that aren't transcribed have some text in some form of thread, so can then boost both the original and the bot's. Otherwise I'd just not boost it.

I'm one of the people who this is useful for. I have brain fog, disabilities and a whole lack of spoons to be doing the work that bot already does.

So yes, I'll continue to thank you for it even though I'm not using a screen reader right now (sometimes I do though not recently).

@lynnesbian That's a real bummer, sorry to hear it, Lynne. Do you have any plans for little OCRBot?

@trickster at the moment i'm just gonna keep it running, but i'm kinda upset about how it turned out. it's open source, so even if i did decide to kill it off, someone else could take up from where i left off

@lynnesbian How about converting it to e.g. a REST API service such that clients can use it to pre-fill the image description fields?

@anathem the problem with that is that it requires extra effort on the user's part, and i don't think anyone wants to put any effort into using this :s

@lynnesbian I'd still say it depends on how the client presents it...

@lynnesbian I was optimistic, but I had a feeling this would be the outcome. :c

@lynnesbian I have limited dexterity and have trouble with certain methods of text entry at various points. OCRbot has been helping me provide captions for friends despite this, and occasionally I've used it in combination with text-based images to share things I simply wouldn't post otherwise.

You've made a big difference for one person, anyway, and allowed me to be respectful of my friends with different concerns while meeting my own accessibility needs.

@lynnesbian thanks for doing the work and sharing it with us :flan_aww:

@lynnesbian i think you're being too harsh on yourself!! i DM ocr-bot if i'm posting an image with lots of text, so that i can copy-paste and edit the text field. it's so much less exhausting than trying to type it all out on phone, and i get an accurate text input for the caption box!! so, it's useful to me, and actively helps me caption better :)

@scribblefrog @lynnesbian this is brilliant, I'm going to have to try that. My biggest barrier is that if the phone is at like a 45° angle and decides to flip to landscape mode while I'm adding an image description, Tusky just closes the box without saving and I have to start over. This should help significantly with longer text snippets.

@lynnesbian
It's almost like a network where one doesn't need to compete for relevancy results in a community that is more likely to help each other instead of knock each other down :D

@lynnesbian Because we appreciate you and all the hard work you put into everything you create and, even if things don't quite go the way you wanted them to, you deserve recognition and support from people?

@lynnesbian

"Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In this world, Elwood, you must be" – she always called me Elwood – "In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

—James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd, "Harvey"

@lynnesbian
awww. it was a good thing. i try to always put image descriptions but i cant on mobile and it was useful for that when the image involved text, or for big blocks of text that i didnt wanna spend transcribing because you'd have to look at the preview, close it, type what you remember, look again, repeat

@larrydavis I'm still keeping it around, and a few people have come to me saying they really appreciate it, so i'll probably leave it up c:

@lynnesbian
It honestly made me more mindful of captioning my images. That and fedilab showing a red outline for uncaptioned images that turns green when you caption them made me use captions a lot more than I did a few months ago

@lynnesbian I've noticed a pattern with the article and replies here, and I wanted to point it out to hopefully help you feel better.

Yes, the intended goal of helping those who rely on screen readers may not be going as well as you had hoped, but it looks like there's one area that was unexpected for you -- an area where it's succeeding.

For the people who have trouble typing in the first place, OCRbot is a godsend. (1/2)

@lynnesbian My point being that this is clearly helping people, just that they're mostly not the people you seem to have thought you'd be helping.

There's always gonna be people who abuse the tools made available to them, but that doesn't mean those tools don't have legitimate use cases. OCRbot is doing real good out there, and you have every reason to be proud of your bot baby as a result. :blobheartcat: (2/2)

@KitsuneAlicia @lynnesbian an incomplete solution is infinitely better than no solution at all

@ben @lynnesbian Yup. We can always work to improve things, but that shouldn't stop us from waiting for a perfect solution before doing anything.

@lynnesbian You're very welcome.

Also, I just wanna point out that the best inventions, the best discoveries, are done by accident. Just look at penicillin. Someone left an apple out too long and now we have antibiotics.

OCRbot isn't perfect, but it's clearly making people's social media lives better. Here's to the future, where as long as we (and especially you in this case) don't give up, things can only get better. 🥂

@lynnesbian I think this is a little overly critical. Have you done objective measures of OCRbot's impact on image description usage? I think you'd need to look at each account that has used OCRbot for their own posts, analyze how many images they tended to post before using OCRbot, how many of those has captions, and then compare those numbers to after they started using OCRbot.

@lynnesbian I am responding to this as though it were someone else writing about your creation; if someone made these critiques, I'd ask them to back it up with statistical evidence. Even then, I'd also ask to have a group of randomly selected people who don't use OCRbot with the same statistics for comparison.

The point is, it's easy to become our own toughest critics sometimes. Although your original goal may not have been entirely met, I don't think it's fair to frame it as damaging!

@lynnesbian i think you just need to make lynnesbian.space/ocr

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